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themadphantom

3/31/2003
09:58:33

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Subject: I have read a mistake in a chess book

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In Chess for Dummies, it says:

It is impossible to give checkmate if you only have a bishop and a king. Go ahead, take out your board and try it. If you can do it, you'll become world famous.

That's not word for word quote, but I have the book and can look up the page. It is impossible ONLY IF THE OPPONENT HAS NOTHING BUT A KING but I've done it before( after trying) if the king has a couple pawns.


jean_marc

3/31/2003
10:12:10

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:) They assumed the obvious...

drgandalf

3/31/2003
10:16:19

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themadphantom

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Good show! Maybe that's why the book is entitled, "Chess for Dummies".

themadphantom

3/31/2003
11:16:26

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Here it is:

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pg 22: The bishop is called a minor piece because you cannot deliver checkmate with just a king and bishop. Go ahead, set up a board and try it. If you can do it, you'll become world famous, and i'll include you in the next edition.

Here's me:

Set up this position: White bishop:on e3

White king: on d1

black pawns: on b4 and a2

1)Kc1 b3
2)Kd1 b2
3)Kc2 b1( and turns into a knight)
4)Bd4+ Nc3
5)Bxc3#

It's not very likely, but it's not impossible


tulkos

3/31/2003
11:39:16

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It happens.

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In Yasser seirawans Brilliancies, (one of the best chess books ever written, and dirt cheap) He accidently overlooks a knight in his analysis.

hardcorepawn

3/31/2003
11:44:42

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I read an opening book

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and in one of the lines they have taken the wrong pawn, which is an obvious blunder :)

hardcorepawn

3/31/2003
11:44:42

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I read an opening book

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and in one of the lines they have taken the wrong pawn, which is an obvious blunder :)

jean_marc

3/31/2003
12:39:34

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You are truly amazing

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but little old me could not achieve the stage of enlightenment since I humbly couldn�t figure out were you had placed the King of Darkness�

jean_marc

3/31/2003
12:39:54

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A bird told me

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that the Black king awaited his faith in a1�
but the same piece of flying meat also preached that playing against a somewhat good chess player under those conditions would probably result in a victory for the dark forces
b1 (turns into a beautiful queen)


themadphantom

3/31/2003
23:47:48

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jean_marc

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No one would ever be foolish enough to turn their pawn into a knight, that's right. But it's not against chess rules

atrifix

4/01/2003
00:15:46

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Example

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W: Kd3, Qf1, Bb8
B: Kb2, Pa2, Pb7, Pc2
White moves 1. Qa1+! and if 1... Kxa1 then 2. Kxc2 mates.


atrifix

4/01/2003
00:29:30

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Here's a better one

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W: Kd3, Qf1, Ba7
B: Kb2, Bd7, Pa2, Pc2, Pe5, Pf6, Pg7
Any move here would lose except for 1. Qa1+!, which mates.


hardcorepawn

4/01/2003
00:48:09

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Themadphantom

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There can be cases when turning a pawn into a knight is the winning move, for example when a queen or a rook would stalemate.

themadphantom

4/01/2003
02:42:49

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not only stalemate

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Once I played against a computer, and it turned a pawn into a knight which was a checkmating move.

drgandalf

4/01/2003
14:42:10

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themadphantom

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I think you have contributed to our chess knowledge, even if in a minor degree. You should endeavor to have your finding published in a chess journal. Every country has one. believe a publisher would have interest.

I generally reward someone who is the first to discover an error in one of my authored books.


themadphantom

4/02/2003
01:40:04

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themadphantom

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thank you:)



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