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| black_star 9/20/2003 02:47:17 [ report this post ] |
 Subject: Opening analysisMessage: Which opening gives white more advantage in terms of score (forget development and position) after the last book move ?? Answer implies some software analysis but the result should be interesting. I found the English Symmetrical but it was just a superficial work. Bye. |
| olympio 9/20/2003 09:56:57 [ report this post ] | score? Message: By score do you mean material score? Because I'd assume there is no opening that you can force that actually gives you an advantage in material. Or do you mean in the score a computer program would give it? |
| olympio 9/20/2003 10:09:26 [ report this post ] | Cause Message: I mean non-forced I would guess the Damniano defense would give you the biggest material advantage.. that's just a joke opener e4 e5 Nf3 f6 Nxe5 fxe5 Qh4+ then white can block with pawn and lose rook or move king and get mated in several moves.. so if he blocks with pawn then that's a pretty nice material net in that opening. |
| olympio 9/20/2003 14:37:37 [ report this post ] | andi f you mean Message: and if you mean winning percentage: according to www.chessgames.com the main variation of french defense seemed to have the highest winning percentages for white.. always around 40 percent or a little more (with about 30+ percent of draws) |
| divine_sun_cat 9/20/2003 16:47:18 [ report this post ] | on my database Message: 1. Na3 is best with 100% wins for white. 1. a4 is worst with 83% wins for black. |
| olympio 9/20/2003 17:21:58 [ report this post ] | well Message: I was sticking to openings that had thousands of games in the database.. but yeah there were a bunch of unorthodox openings that only had a few games and a 100% score for one side or the other. I think grob was 100% for white.. |
| coyotefan 9/21/2003 06:09:58 [ report this post ] | black_star Message: That question could be the basis of a Doctoral thesis in statistics. Chess is not checkers. There is on one opeining that could possibly answer that question, or we all would be playing it. |
| spurtus 9/23/2003 02:12:24 [ report this post ] | Message: E4 is the highest score, hence the most common opening and as a GM once said ( forget which now ) ... 'E4, best by test' Spurtus. |
| halfpast_yellow 9/23/2003 03:22:49 [ report this post ] | Opening as white Message: Fischer liked to open with 1.e4 and that quote is usually attributed to him if I remember correctly.. Queens Gambit and English also score well for white, though there is only so much that can be read into statistics as I think has been said... |
| pebbles 9/23/2003 06:33:18 [ report this post ] | Best by test Message: Yes, Fischer wrote that in the annotation to one of the games in "My 60 memorable games". |
| baseline 9/23/2003 07:18:12 [ report this post ] | pebbles Message: You are so right! I have a first edition copy of that book with his name spelled wrong on the binding! :o) Hans Berliner argues that 1.d4 is best in his book "The system". |
| spurtus 9/23/2003 08:42:05 [ report this post ] | Message: Just wanted to throw in a contraversial opening.... e3... how bad do people here rate this?... and why?...is it really so bad?... I always use it, and it seems to work for me?... just curious why it gets such a bad reputation. Spurtus. |
| coyotefan 9/23/2003 23:18:26 [ report this post ] | Anything works on inferior players Message: 1.Nh3 will also work. 1.e3 wastes a tempo, does not attack the center strong, and gives black a slight advantage. I would not play it against strong players. |
| bogg 9/24/2003 00:21:16 [ report this post ] | coyotefan Message: I played 1. e3 in OTB chess and have beaten many near masters using it! Where I live I rarely get an oppotunity to play masters. My specific method was to transpose to either an English or a Bird on my second move avoiding the From's gambit. |
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