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invincible1

11/08/2004
02:44:41

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Subject: Pelikan Sicilian Question.

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I have played a lot of the pelikan sicilian and now suddenly I have a doubt!
1.e4 c5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.d4 cxd4 4.Nxd4 Nf6 5.Nc3 e5 6.Nd-b5 d6 7.Bg5 a6 8.Na3 b5 9.Bxf6 gxf6 10.Nd5 f5 11.Bd3 Be6

And here white has two lines, either 12.0-0 Bxd5 13.exd5 Ne7 etc or 12.Qh5 when black can play 12....Bg7 or 12....Rg8 (which is what I play). My question is the following...
If for 12.Qh5, black plays 12.....Bxd5 13.exd5 Ne7, then what is white's strongest continuation? If white's best move is 14.0-0, then black has managed to force white into the 12.0-0 line! And I don't really see any other move for white.... For example, 14.Bxf5 Qa5+ and white is in trouble, or 14.Nxb5 and then black can just play Bg7 or for that matter even maybe Qb8 (though I haven't looked at this).

So basically, for 12.Qh5 Bxd5 13.exd5 Ne7, what is white's strongest move?

Any help will be greatly appreciated.. as I want to become a GM of Sveshnikov/Pelikan :-).


invincible1

11/08/2004
02:46:44

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ooops,

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sorry was meant to be in chess related forums... copy and posting there too.

lordoftherings

11/08/2004
12:30:42

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i just look to my openings books...

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there is no such a move.like Bxd5 inside...hmm...
really interesting...especially Va5 and b4 moves...Does someone know about?


ibeben

11/10/2004
05:59:10

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Re: Lordoftherings

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What do you mean by

"really interesting...especially Va5 and b4 moves...Does someone know about?"

this? After Qa5+ white playing e4? I thaught that line is in my sicilian book...
The svesnikov bible by GM J. van der Wiel :) Great book btw.



cash1981

11/19/2004
09:04:04

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RE:

Message:
Try to look at my pelikan/sveshnikov mini tournament. Think you will find it very helpful. I have personally played that line, and after Qh5, I played Rg8 which is a pawn sacrifize, and my game with sokolsky (white), he came ahead, I couldn't get a good attack vs the pawn.

invincible1

11/19/2004
09:33:49

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cash1981

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First, everyone thanks for the replies.

Cash1981, I think you erred somewhere against Sokolosy. As for Qh5-Rg8, g3-Rg5, the best white move is Qd1. I haven't checked what black's reply should be for Qxh7 though. However, I too play the Rg8 line, and I think that for g3, ....Rg4 is even more exciting than Rg5 and usually is followed by f4-ef4, Nf4-Rf4!? with unclear position and perhaps compensation for the exchange!


cash1981

11/19/2004
09:41:34

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invincible1

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You are probably right. I am too trying to become a good pelikan sicilian player. Why don't you play in a team anymore?



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