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| spurtus 2/15/2005 05:27:09 [ report this post ] |
 Subject: king fortressMessage: i came across this formation the other day and it proved extremely resilient... - king side castle. - front three pawns in place on second rank. - a bishop the knight 3 square if front of king. it proved to be quite useful in its context to protect the bishop twice and guard the pawns twice, backed up by the rook and king. with the potential ability to advance either pawn two squares under bishop protection, and other nuances in the context of this game in which I played this. Just wondering if there are other interesting formations like this that apply to the material left on the board as strongholds for king safety? Thanks, Spurtus |
| bananaman1 2/22/2005 13:31:19 [ report this post ] | My preference Message: I enjoy a fionchettoed king bishop with a king castle and the knight moved to F3 if I am white. It may not be as protected but you can get into it easier. - Moving the knight allows a discovered attack -both pawns can move two up and still be protected |
| paulberg 2/25/2005 23:14:32 [ report this post ] | a bishop the knight 3 square if front of king Message: What exactly did you mean by "a bishop the knight 3 square if front of king"? pauL |
| bananaman1 2/26/2005 13:20:58 [ report this post ] | Message: supose I am white I would have pieces f2, g3, h2, Bg3, Nf3, Kg1, Rf1 I hope that answers the confusion |
| alberlie 2/26/2005 14:14:40 [ report this post ] | Message: hmm, I'd like the fianchetto variant better: what do you do after you advanced your two pawns? To guard them further up the board you'd have to move your bishop (and backwards!) and then advance the g-pawns. neither f- nor h-pawn is protected during the bishop-move... |
| li_wei_sheng 2/26/2005 20:48:37 [ report this post ] | How about Knights on f6 and g6? Message: As Black, we have f7,g7,h7,Nf6,Ng6,Rf8,Kg8. How does that sound? |
| bucklehead 2/27/2005 09:50:34 [ report this post ] | This is not an uncommon pattern Message: I did a quick material search in my tiny database and came up with something like 400+ master games with this "fortress" position as white. Many seem to be associated with a line in the Ruy Lopez called the "Benelux Variation" (1.e4 e5 2.Nf3 Nc6 3.Bb5 Nf6 4.O-O Bc5 5.c3 O-O 6.d4 Bb6 7.Bg5). If you think about it, though, this is a fairly natural position in any system where white plays Bg5 vs black's Nf6. The setup could easily go something like 7. Bg5 h6 8. Bh4 g5 9. Bg3 (though using the Benelux as the jumping-off point, I think 9. Bg3 is a tactical error, but if you play through the moves you will get the picture). |
| giuco_piano_guy 2/27/2005 11:36:00 [ report this post ] | My favorite pattern Message: I like to have three pawns on h2, g2, and f3, Knight on f2, Rook on e1, and King on g1. It's very effective. |
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