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| mikkip 4/06/2005 08:52:08 [ report this post ] |
 Subject: Mini-tournaments win/loss tableMessage: In in a mini-tournament a player can be automatically withdrawn from the mini-tournament due to a change in their rating. If this happens all players who did not play this person yet automatically receive the full points (as if they won from this person). This seems unfair to me because if one has already played the specific person and lost one or two games against him no points are received whereas the players who didn't play him receive full points. See for example -> gameknot.com. Can anybody explain the logic and fairness behind this? |
| alberlie 4/06/2005 09:59:18 [ report this post ] | Message: Well ... uhm.. no. Try Mike. There have alread been threads about this strange rule-change in the past... -> "withdrawal from Tournament" "Ridiculous rule change" and so on... |
| zhnkiu 4/06/2005 13:46:02 [ report this post ] | and it doesn't Message: do anything about overqualified players who time-out a lot. ..z |
| oblique 4/06/2005 14:40:17 [ report this post ] | i don't Message: i don't like this rule at all. lowering ur rating to dominate a MT is not something that should be punished by an automatic system. it needs to be arbitrated and discussed. |
| nobodyknowmypain 4/08/2005 08:30:44 [ report this post ] | This is what you do Message: If you see a player starting to climb ratings in a tournament quite strangely, you kindly ask them to resign all their losing non tourny games. Doesn't always work, but most of the time it does, for example I'm in a 1550-1750 tournament, and one guy was climbing up to 1840 something, and he already played 10 tourney games, and one was a loss by myself against him! So I asked him kindly if he had any losing non tourney games in reserve, he said, "I likely have several", the next day, I log on, he's 1760 rated, better, but he's still somewhat in danger of going. What's the limit? Is it if you reach over 100 pts of the max limit you get expelled? |
| leo_london 4/08/2005 10:26:01 [ report this post ] | It is unfair. Message: I have just become the beneficiary of points in just such a manner. I guess it is the luck of the draw, all the other folks had played and lost against the withdrawn player, I was in the middle of a game with another game to play. Surely it would be fairer to discount all the games against the withdrawn player or award everyone a win. |
| wschmidt 4/08/2005 14:25:12 [ report this post ] | nobody.... Message: the answer is right there in the tournament rules: "If over time player's rating falls 200 or more points below the low limit or rises 200 or more points above the high limit, that player will be automatically withdrawn from the mini-tournament". * So your request to the 1840 player in the 1550-1750 tournament was a little premature. He had over 100 points to go before being booted. |
| crow99 4/08/2005 18:15:31 [ report this post ] | Message: I agree with dumping the player if he climbs too high, I find it annoying playing people who are headed towards a 2000 rating and just picking up quick points as they go....but I also agree that upon withdrawing the player all won or lost games should be reset to award everyone a point so it's fair to everyone. |
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