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crow99
4/10/2005
02:46:15
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 Subject: Opening with Black
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I find it difficult finding an opening with black that I really love. I have no such problem with white, as I play King's gambit almost all the time, and anything aggressive against the Sicilian etc. But with black I almost always end up defending with the Sicilian, and prefer to attack, or at least have some chances of counter-attack, but what to play against E4 for the attacking player? I like gambits as well....just need to find something I love (like I love the Kings gambit) and then I can learn the theory and develop that opening for my repotoire....
Any thoughts are highly appreciated!
Crow.
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kimbeldrv
4/10/2005
04:11:15
[ report this post ] | interesting link
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Maybe there's something at this link that will give you some ideas...
-> www.ex.ac.uk
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kimbeldrv
4/10/2005
04:13:46
[ report this post ] | by the way
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Are you interested in trying Team play here at GK?
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superblunder
4/10/2005
09:35:35
[ report this post ] | I would play 1.e4 e5 if I were you.
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I know it is not super aggresive to start with, as white usually will have the initiative for awhile (but that is true in any defense) but black immediately challenges the center and there are a number of very aggressive options for black no matter what white plays...the scotch can be played aggressively by black, the two-knights defense against 3.Bc4 offers a pawn for a strong attack, the marshall attack against the spanish offers a center pawn in exchange for open lines, and rapid development aimed at white's king...what more could you want!
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superblunder
4/10/2005
09:39:33
[ report this post ] | forgot to mention....
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against 1.d4 I find it is much harder to find a good, aggressive defense for black, personally I play the nimzo and queen's indian but these tend to be more strategic than attacking. Mikhail Tal was an attacking genius and he favored the modern benoni as an aggressive option for black against 1.d4. Of course most of us can't play like Tal, and the benoni is very complex, very risky defense..not to my taste as black can get crushed quickly if he is not careful.
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nobodyknowmypain
4/10/2005
11:43:32
[ report this post ] | People may laugh at me. . .
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But a Caro-Kann, with a queenside castling for black, usually ends up pretty doubled edged in the middlegame. The opening has an unfair reputation of being boring, but warning, black has to defend carefully in this opening at first.
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i_play_slowly
4/11/2005
20:17:33
[ report this post ] | Research...
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One suggestion might be to find out who is championing the King's Gambit nowadays and what do they like to play as Black. Alexei Fedorov, for example, is one contemporary champion of the King's Gambit. As Black, he has played the Sicilian (B32, B76, B51, B30, B23), King's Indian (E63, E97, E92, E90, E83), and Sicilian Dragon (B76, B78, B70, B39, B77).
(See -> www.chessgames.com
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Who, then, are the other champions, and do they prefer these same openings as Black? If not, what are their common denominators?
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apastpawn
4/11/2005
20:53:46
[ report this post ] | If your a Kings Gambit fan
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you could look into playing the Latvian Gambit, a Kings Gambit in reverse sort of for black. 1.e4 e5 2. Nf3 (the usual follow-up) f5. Look into it closely as there are a few tricks and its not an easy time for white if they are ill prepared. Having played recently against it, it does have its merits.
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kansaspatzer
4/11/2005
20:57:31
[ report this post ] | Alekhine's
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I've been trying the Alekhine's Defense lately with reasonably good results.
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schnarre
4/12/2005
15:11:17
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Latvian Gambit or Scandinavian Defense (1. e4 d5) would be my recommendations, though the Alekhine offers quite a bit. In the end, try them all at least 5 times, & see which one suits your needs.
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crow99
4/12/2005
17:30:02
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Thanks everyone, you've given me some good ideas there...I have been thinking about switching to 1e5 and will probably look into the Latvian Gambit which I have played before but not since I switched to the Sicilian, which to be honest I only did because it's so popular, but never really liked it or got good results. I have been toying with the Scandavian as well, but it's just a bit too open for my liking. Anyway....food for thought....guess I gotta go take schnarre's advice and try them out! Crow.
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thecatcool120
4/13/2005
10:53:40
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good opening for black? I always enjoyed the French Defense since my chess club taught it. The opening goes 1. e4 e6 2. d4 d5. The Caro Kann isn't much different but I love this one. Espessically Advanced Variation: 3. e5 c5 4. c3 Nc6 5. Nf3 Qb6 and I love how the Queen can come out. Don't forget that 6. Be3 Qxb2 drops a pawn, and if not 7. Nc3, a rook also.
This stuff works, lol
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spurtus
4/14/2005
09:03:55
[ report this post ] | e4
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Scandinavian Defense is under-rated for OTB, but over-rated for CC !!! I personally think. You have to enjoy this kind of position though, its certainly not normally a closed position!
...there as so many lines off of 1...e5 that if you use something like 1...d5 you will almost half the known opening theory you need to learn...(its not usually in most players opening repertoir) there is nothing wrong with 1...e5 ('best by test') but thats what I have done... in fact I like to think I've almost quartered the amount of opening knowledge I need to study by doing the following for popular openings...
as black
1. e4 d5
1. d4 nf6 ( hoping for 2. c4 )
as white
1. d4 (hoping for nf6 which is part of my repertoir.) 2. c4
Spurtus.
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