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ccmcacollister

12/06/2005
05:28:32
[ report this post ]		 Subject: FORUM Game #2 (FG#2)

Message:
The following initial post information is the same as for the thread called FORUM FUN GAME #1 ... where a Dutch Defense is now ongoing. This one will differ by beginning with e4. Here are the Rules thusfar, as taken from the prior thread. Please join-in and enjoy yourself! }8-) ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~
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I would like to try a out a new Forum concept here, similar to a consultation game. RULES; to be as follows:
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[*Foremost is to enjoy the game(s). So RULES here are guidelines we try to follow. But no penalty or negativity about any infraction or misunderstanding of them. In that case, we'll simply clarify and continue the game.]
^^
*Please DO have a board kept set-up to follow the game, if you wish to play. Thus, No "blindfold" moves, Please!
^^
*Anyone with Forum posting privleges can join at any time, but can only make moves for one side or the other; therefore must stick with the color that their first accepted move is.
^^
*When more than one player posts for the same move number, then the first legal move posted will be the accepted move in the game.
^^
*A player can post a move for his side at any point, but cannot make two consecutive moves. Some other player must make a move before the last player to post an accepted move can post another one. (At this time, Conditional Moves will not be made; but might be tried in the future sometime. Probably a later game.)
^^
* A game will be considered RESIGNED if no one posts a move within 24 hours for the side whose turn it is.
^^
[*The first player to post an accepted move for that color (excluding me) will be the Captain of that side for the game. Presently Captains have no particular duty or functions, but perhaps may if it becomes apparent that there is some need for such.]
^^
*I will serve as a REFEREE/MODERATOR in the first couple games, to make any Rules additions, as/if needed. My posts in that capacity WILL BE TYPED TOTALLY IN CAPITAL LETTERS, THUS EVERYONE ELSE IS ASKED TO REFRAIN FROM USING ALL CAPS IN THEIR POSTINGS.
{* I am also playing on the white side, but wish my own contributions to not be overly frequent. Especially since one place I'll use my own moves will be to put in some of the more obvious ones, just to help things move along. }
^^
*The format arrived at in the prior thread, for making moves, seems to be working well. So would like to use it here. Please show the move# and move you are posting in the "SUBJECT" line of your post. And then the moves leading up to that can be pasted in, with the new move shown there, giving the scoresheet of the new position.
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*All participant or spectators are welcome to post notes after the game. Additionally, participants may comment as the game goes on as long as the move commented upon is at least 10 moves in the past. If any move sequence given as arising from that prior move#, try to avoid coming closer than 5 moves to the present position. This is just to avoid commentary that could affect the ongoing play or strategy.
[Still, its all in fun and so if it doesn't work out well, then next time notes can be prohibited until game completion.]
^^
Any suggestions about Rules or format are most welcome.
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I will now proceed to make the first move which will start Forum Game #2 here, to be designated FG#2 . Someone please make BLACK's first reply, and we'll be started !

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ccmcacollister

12/06/2005
05:33:22
[ report this post ]		 4 ... Be7

Message:
1.d4 d5
2.c4 e6
3.Nc3 Nf6
4.Bg5 Be7

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THE ABOVE MOVES IN THIS POST ARE SIMPLY TO PROVIDE THE EXAMPLE OF THE FORMAT FOR MOVING THAT SEEMS TO BE WORKING WELL IN THE OTHER GAME THREAD. SO IF YOU CAN FOLLOW IT, THAT IS HELPFUL FOR ORGANIZATION. BUT IF ANY PROBLEM DOING THAT, ITS OKAY, WE'LL STRAIGHTEN ANY KINKS OUT AS THEY ARISE :-) ~~~ Craig

ccmcacollister

12/06/2005
05:35:23
[ report this post ]		 1. e4

Message:
1. e4 ___

and waiting for a player to step up with a BLACK opening move.
(and after his move, we'll need another WT player to show up!)

loreta

12/06/2005
06:08:56
[ report this post ]		 1. ... e5 - No any Sicilian!

Message:
1. e4 e5

hollcana

12/06/2005
07:42:08
[ report this post ]		 2. d4

Message:
1. e4 e5
2. d4 ___
Hope I did that right!

bucklehead

12/06/2005
08:13:54
[ report this post ]		 2...Nf6

Message:
1 e4 e5
2 d4 Nf6

My personal answer to the very silly Center Game!

brilliance

12/06/2005
08:15:00
[ report this post ]		 2. exd4

Message:
1. e4 e5
2. d4 exd4

So, when will white resign? My move is winning!

brilliance

12/06/2005
08:15:29
[ report this post ]		 Ok pls delete my two posts.

Message:
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alberlie

12/06/2005
09:26:31
[ report this post ]		 3. dxe5

Message:
1. e4 e5
2. d4 Nf6
3. dxe5

leo_london

12/06/2005
09:28:15
[ report this post ]		 3.Nf3

Message:
I know which direction you are taking Jeff...I dont mind. ;-)

1. e4 e5
2. d4 Nf6
3. Nf3


ionadowman

12/06/2005
11:00:56
[ report this post ]		 3...Nxe4

Message:
1.e4 e5
2.d4 Nf6
3.Nf3 Nxe4

bucklehead

12/06/2005
11:22:44
[ report this post ]		 3...Nxe4

Message:
1. e4 e5
2. d4 Nf6
3. dxe5 Nxe4

-->According to the rules, this should be the line, not the 3 Nf3 one (sorry Leo!)

hollcana

12/06/2005
12:18:23
[ report this post ]		 4. Nf3

Message:
1. e4 e5
2. d4 Nf6
3. dxe5 Nxe4
4. Nf3

leo_london

12/06/2005
12:44:29
[ report this post ]		 Yes...sorry

Message:
missed the post by " alberlie ".

alberlie

12/06/2005
13:05:36
[ report this post ]		 LOL

Message:
Bucklehead, your move is invalid too. According to the rules, you have to choose sides _and_ may not make two consecutive moves. I understand this to mean that since you made 2. ... Nf6, someone else has to make a black move before you may move 4. ... ?? again. Let someone else mess up the crucial move order in the Peterson :o))

So unlesss craig intervenes I propose to follow from this position:

1. e4 e5
2. d4 Nf6
3. dxe5

bucklehead

12/06/2005
13:23:36
[ report this post ]		 oops...

Message:
I concur. My ego got the best of me.

1. e4 e5
2. d4 Nf6
3. dxe5

Black to move

cairo

12/06/2005
13:43:13
[ report this post ]		 3.... Nxe4

Message:
1. e4 e5
2. d4 Nf6
3. dxe5 Nxe4

Bw
Cairo

hollcana

12/06/2005
19:22:10
[ report this post ]		 4. Nf3

Message:
1. e4 e5
2. d4 Nf6
3. dxe5 Nxe4
4. Nf3
As I was saying!!

ccmcacollister

12/07/2005
03:57:59
[ report this post ]		 Well ....

Message:
[jEFF ... Was it a miracle !?...perhaps devine intervention yet, to keep it out of a Petroff ?! You simply must give up that opening! ... haha!~ :)) ]

LOOKS LIKE THINGS ARE BACK ON TRACK ... }8-)


loreta

12/07/2005
04:25:44
[ report this post ]		 No any miracle :-)

Message:
I would transfer it into Latvian or Elephant gambit...

bucklehead

12/07/2005
05:19:23
[ report this post ]		 4...d5

Message:
I think I'm clear to move again. I would point out that we're not *quite* in Petrov territory, though I've found the position in some analysis of the main lines of the Symmetrical Variation of the 3 d4 Petrov.

1. e4 e5
2. d4 Nf6
3. dxe5 Nxe4
4. Nf3 d5

ccmcacollister

12/07/2005
21:44:50
[ report this post ]		 NO NONONO NO !

Message:

1. e4 e5
2. d4 Nf6
3. dxe5 Nxe4
4. Nf3 d5
5. exd6

SIGH -- And so a Petroff is born. Worse, I have fathered it :((((
But there are times ... well, what do you do?
(OK Jeff you've spurned civility and had your wicked way ... now we'll see if anyone Answers my move ... AHA. You've forgotten, it takes TWO to play here! HA
24 hours, tick tick tick ... any Petroff players out there ... ?!!! }8-)



wolstoncroft1

12/08/2005
02:08:16
[ report this post ]		 keep the game alive...THIS MEANS YOU

Message:
1. e4 e5
2. d4 Nf6
3. dxe5 Nxe4
4. Nf3 d5
5. exd6 Bxd6

alberlie

12/08/2005
03:15:42
[ report this post ]		 6. Qe2 happily patzering along :o))

Message:
1. e4 e5
2. d4 Nf6
3. dxe5 Nxe4
4. Nf3 d5
5. exd6 Bxd6
6. Qe2

bucklehead

12/08/2005
07:36:08
[ report this post ]		 6...0-0 not to worry

Message:
1. e4 e5
2. d4 Nf6
3. dxe5 Nxe4
4. Nf3 d5
5. exd6 Bxd6
6. Qe2 0-0

I think there's going to be plenty of interest here. Long live the Petrov!


ccmcacollister

12/08/2005
07:48:27
[ report this post ]		 SHOULD WE ...

Message:
ALLOW DISCUSSION AFTER 5 MOVES INSTEAD OF 10?






leo_london

12/09/2005
07:25:44
[ report this post ]		 7.Be3

Message:
Just to keep it going. I think we have confused our lines with white, neither one thing or another. Can we have this game set up anywhere ?

1. e4 e5
2. d4 Nf6
3. dxe5 Nxe4
4. Nf3 d5
5. exd6 Bxd6
6. Qe2 0-0
7. Be3


loreta

12/09/2005
08:09:46
[ report this post ]		 7. ... Re8 - it looks naturally

Message:
1. e4 e5
2. d4 Nf6
3. dxe5 Nxe4
4. Nf3 d5
5. exd6 Bxd6
6. Qe2 0-0
7. Be3 Re8
8. ___

hollcana

12/09/2005
16:42:52
[ report this post ]		 8. Nb1-d2

Message:
1. e4 e5
2. d4 Nf6
3. dxe5 Nxe4
4. Nf3 d5
5. exd6 Bxd6
6. Qe2 0-0
7. Be3 Re8
8. Nb1-d2 ...

ionadowman

12/11/2005
11:07:34
[ report this post ]		 Attackers don't like exchanges...

Message:
Let's retire the advanced N.
1. e4 e5
2. d4 Nf6
3. dxe5 Nxe4
4. Nf3 d5
5. exd6 Bxd6
6. Qe2 0-0
7. Be3 Re8
8. Nb1-d2 Nf6

leo_london

12/11/2005
17:02:38
[ report this post ]		 9.0-0-0

Message:
1. e4 e5
2. d4 Nf6
3. dxe5 Nxe4
4. Nf3 d5
5. exd6 Bxd6
6. Qe2 0-0
7. Be3 Re8
8. Nb1-d2 Nf6
9. 0-0-0




leo_london

12/13/2005
16:42:23
[ report this post ]		 I guess..

Message:
this game is finished too ?

ionadowman

12/15/2005
01:15:13
[ report this post ]		 It's against the rules...

Message:
... my making the move (since I played Black's last) but we might contemplate 9...Be6 here. Maybe?

cairo

12/15/2005
12:13:27
[ report this post ]		 9.... Nc6

Message:
1. e4 e5
2. d4 Nf6
3. dxe5 Nxe4
4. Nf3 d5
5. exd6 Bxd6
6. Qe2 0-0
7. Be3 Re8
8. Nb1-d2 Nf6
9. 0-0-0 Nc6

Bw.
Cairo

hollcana

12/15/2005
17:03:38
[ report this post ]		 10. Nc4

Message:
1. e4 e5
2. d4 Nf6
3. dxe5 Nxe4
4. Nf3 d5
5. exd6 Bxd6
6. Qe2 0-0
7. Be3 Re8
8. Nb1-d2 Nf6
9. 0-0-0 Nc6
10. Nc4

sumsar

12/16/2005
08:40:57
[ report this post ]		 10... Nd5

Message:
1. e4 e5
2. d4 Nf6
3. dxe5 Nxe4
4. Nf3 d5
5. exd6 Bxd6
6. Qe2 0-0
7. Be3 Re8
8. Nb1-d2 Nf6
9. 0-0-0 Nc6
10. Nc4 Nd5

sough

12/16/2005
11:03:10
[ report this post ]		 11. Rxd5

Message:
A trap? I don't see it. 11. Rxd5

ionadowman

12/17/2005
01:33:42
[ report this post ]		 12....Be6

Message:
Odds-giving style...Maybe 11....Ne5 was intended?
1. e4 e5
2. d4 Nf6
3. dxe5 Nxe4
4. Nf3 d5
5. exd6 Bxd6
6. Qe2 0-0
7. Be3 Re8
8. Nb1-d2 Nf6
9. 0-0-0 Nc6
10. Nc4 Nd5
11.Rxd5 Be6

sumsar

12/17/2005
05:59:31
[ report this post ]		 Yes

Message:
11... Ne5 was the intention. I am terribly sorry about that. I sometimes wonder if I am name dyslextic. I some times say and write one thing when I mean something else with a firm conviction I was saying writing the thing I meant to.

hollcana

12/17/2005
06:37:44
[ report this post ]		 12. Rd1

Message:
1. e4 e5
2. d4 Nf6
3. dxe5 Nxe4
4. Nf3 d5
5. exd6 Bxd6
6. Qe2 0-0
7. Be3 Re8
8. Nb1-d2 Nf6
9. 0-0-0 Nc6
10. Nc4 Nd5
11.Rxd5 Be6
12. Rd1


tugger

12/18/2005
17:39:55
[ report this post ]		 12..... h6

Message:
1. e4 e5
2. d4 Nf6
3. dxe5 Nxe4
4. Nf3 d5
5. exd6 Bxd6
6. Qe2 0-0
7. Be3 Re8
8. Nb1-d2 Nf6
9. 0-0-0 Nc6
10. Nc4 Nd5
11.Rxd5 Be6
12. Rd1 h6

looks pretty dire to me....

ionadowman

12/28/2005
11:10:16
[ report this post ]		 Yoohoo, White!

Message:
Give up? Doyadoyadoya?

leo_london

12/29/2005
17:22:42
[ report this post ]		 13.Nxd6

Message:
1. e4 e5
2. d4 Nf6
3. dxe5 Nxe4
4. Nf3 d5
5. exd6 Bxd6
6. Qe2 0-0
7. Be3 Re8
8. Nb1-d2 Nf6
9. 0-0-0 Nc6
10. Nc4 Nd5
11.Rxd5 Be6
12. Rd1 h6
13. Nxd6

ionadowman

1/14/2006
02:48:58
[ report this post ]		 13...Bxc4

Message:
1. e4 e5
2. d4 Nf6
3. dxe5 Nxe4
4. Nf3 d5
5. exd6 Bxd6
6. Qe2 0-0
7. Be3 Re8
8. Nb1-d2 Nf6
9. 0-0-0 Nc6
10. Nc4 Nd5
11.Rxd5 Be6
12. Rd1 h6
13. Nxd6 Bxc4
But I guess Black really ought to toss it in...


hardland

1/14/2006
12:39:45
[ report this post ]		 14 Nxc4

Message:
Well, joinnig with the white then

14 Nxc4 is the move

mattdw

1/14/2006
14:28:42
[ report this post ]

Message:
How was 13...Bxc4 possible? When I played the game through there wasn't a piece on c4 to be taken...

mattdw

1/14/2006
14:29:43
[ report this post ]

Message:
A quick look through whites moves would suggest that no piece was ever moved to c4 either...

mattdw

1/14/2006
14:31:38
[ report this post ]

Message:
...sorry, the knight did move there, but it moved away when 13. Nxd6 was played.
Why can't you edit or delete posts on this forum?! ;)

hollcana

1/14/2006
16:28:00
[ report this post ]		 Waiting for proper black move

Message:
1. e4 e5
2. d4 Nf6
3. dxe5 Nxe4
4. Nf3 d5
5. exd6 Bxd6
6. Qe2 0-0
7. Be3 Re8
8. Nb1-d2 Nf6
9. 0-0-0 Nc6
10. Nc4 Nd5
11.Rxd5 Be6
12. Rd1 h6
13. Nxd6 ...


mattdw

1/15/2006
02:06:28
[ report this post ]		 13...cxd6

Message:
1. e4 e5
2. d4 Nf6
3. dxe5 Nxe4
4. Nf3 d5
5. exd6 Bxd6
6. Qe2 0-0
7. Be3 Re8
8. Nb1-d2 Nf6
9. 0-0-0 Nc6
10. Nc4 Nd5
11.Rxd5 Be6
12. Rd1 h6
13. Nxd6 cxd6

If I hadn't made a mistake & move 13 for black was required...

hollcana

1/15/2006
06:10:37
[ report this post ]		 14. b3

Message:
1. e4 e5
2. d4 Nf6
3. dxe5 Nxe4
4. Nf3 d5
5. exd6 Bxd6
6. Qe2 0-0
7. Be3 Re8
8. Nb1-d2 Nf6
9. 0-0-0 Nc6
10. Nc4 Nd5
11. Rxd5 Be6
12. Rd1 h6
13. Nxd6 cxd6
14. b3

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