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| mattdw 1/25/2006 13:59:11 [ report this post ] |
 Subject: Blindfold Chess?Message: Matt |
| thunker 1/25/2006 17:20:38 [ report this post ] | Matt Message: May I suggest the following? It may define it all better.... -> en.wikipedia.org |
| cascadejames 1/25/2006 21:42:36 [ report this post ] | Not successfully Message: important after 10 or 15 moves. It helps if your opponent plays a familiar conventional opening. Even if you lose it is an interesting excercise. Give it a try. You might be surprised at how long you can keep track of where everything is. James |
| misato 1/25/2006 22:16:37 [ report this post ] | I used to play "blind memory" Message: A third person is my "right hand" and turns the cards I tell him, tells me the items on the turned cards and collects/unturns them. That looks easier as chess, but I often don�t delete those cards in my memory which are already taken. So in the end of the game (but after my 17th pair which is decisive) I frequently name a square (b6 or so) which has been emptied before. I never managed to clean the table ... |
| daverundle 1/26/2006 02:27:51 [ report this post ] | a friend of Message: I believe the world record for blindfold chess is in the hundreds! I have played up to 15 games simultaneously when i ran a chess club at a school where i worked and that was hard enough!! |
| ccmcacollister 1/26/2006 02:44:42 [ report this post ] | I think Blindfold Message: *** There is a story about Fischer too. During one event the lights went out. So the director said to stop the clocks. Whereupon Fischers opponent claimed it would not be fair to stop Bobby's clock as 'he will work on the move without the board'. So supposedly RJF confirmed that and they let his clock run :) *** Pillsbury, Najdorf and Alekine have all performed noteworthy numbers of blindfold games simulataneously. I had a nice KGA win once as my best. But tend to lose track nowadays and find that I'm asking for trouble if I try to post something without going to an actual board. But many players will find they can handle a blindfold game. And there are techniques to strengthen such play. Probably a good memory is key. Since then even if visualization is weaker, the game can be reconstructed if you get a glich. Also familiarity with a great number of positions, like a GM is, so you can note that 'this is almost like such and such, except ...' *** From past forum, we know there are a lot of players on GK who do it, and have mentioned techniques involved. |
| bob2 1/26/2006 03:49:22 [ report this post ] | Tony Miles Message: He says that you remember the various boards as pictures and call up in memory each of the boards in turn to hear your opponents move and to make yours. |
| alberlie 1/26/2006 06:36:17 [ report this post ] | remember boards as pictures... Message: |
| misato 1/26/2006 06:59:29 [ report this post ] | wikipedia says: Message: His opponents were not too strong players, other people played better opponents - but this number of 56 is the maximum. There may be some other numbers because official judges and such is needed for an official world record. In Russia blindfold simultan chess once was forbidden by law, fearing mental damage. Another GM (was it Najdorf?) couldn�t sleep for days after such an event. |
| mattdw 1/26/2006 09:16:11 [ report this post ] | Message: |
| ccmcacollister 1/26/2006 11:01:11 [ report this post ] | mattdw ... Message: ***** misato ; I was wondering about Kolti's blindfold play. Thanks for filling us in. I knew he played it but not that he had the record. Apparently he has a very great memory too, besides visualization, from what I've read. * Another thing he does to entertain is: "The Knight's Tour", which consists of having someone chose a starting square for the Knight, and he will 'tour' the board with it, landing upon all 64 squares, without repeating any of them. And i believe that is blindfold too, but not certain. * Before reading your info about Kolti, Najdorf was the last record-holder that I knew of ... and I believe he played 49 games simultaneously, blindfolded. * Pillsbury used to give blindfold chess exhibitions to entertain, that would include playing blindfold checkers, and engaging in a game of Whist, whilest doing the 20- some games of Chess blindfolded. Now that's Showmanship, ay? !!! ***** }8-) |
| wschmidt 1/26/2006 11:44:45 [ report this post ] | I don't remember if it was Kolty's Message: * I've always been frustrated by my lack of ability to rapidly reset the board during analysis sessions (how do those guys remember what a complex board looked like 7 moves ago (with lots of exchanges) and reset it so fast?) and I've thought that doing that exercise might help. For awhile I took a puzzle book and tried that method - studying the four sections and then setting up the board. I don't know if it helped my chess but maybe it will stave off Alzheimers. * I don't know about earlier editions, but Chessmaster 9000 and, I presume, the newest edition has a blindfold chess feature. I've never used it but I just checked my copy and it's there. Fritz 9 doesn't seem to have that option but maybe the newest edition does. ws |
| ccmcacollister 1/26/2006 12:25:31 [ report this post ] | alberlie ... Message: of knowing square colors blindfolded. A FIDE master friend has trained several Juniors of promise, up to as high as Master level in otb and among the top dozen or so in the USA. One of his requirements for his student IS to know the board 'inside and out' as we say. That they should be able to know what color a square is if he names it, without thought. I don't know his rationale behind this requirement, but maybe it promotes faster analysis; or a foundation of confidence to build upon. I should ask about it sometime. In any case, he does seem to feel it important enough to require it of all students. Back to visualizing... I use the Long Diagonals a lot if I need to figure out square color. Knowing that "WHITE is on the RIGHT" of the board, and so to the catycorner square. And BLack always LEFT Lufting Right. But the helpful trick is that the Mini-Boards (quads) are the Same as the Large Board. WT always on your right lifting to left. Like h1 to e4. And your corner on the Left side of a Quad is always BL going to the other BL corner. Like e1 to h4. .....So looking at it broken down into a Quad like that,there are only 2 squares to consider between any of the Quad corners. Its pretty hard to miss! :) ***(Apologies if this is not clear or overstated; it has been a long night, and not a time for editing myself) Regards, Craig |
| zhnkiu 1/26/2006 20:27:11 [ report this post ] | As a prize Message: In highschool, I was pretty good at playing Pencil&Paper; chess: capitals for white, lower case for black with an underscore. The board ends up getting destroyed and illegible (and upside down), so the game is played mostly by memory. I suppose I would consider this playing with one eye open... |
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