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brilliance play-chess-online.com chess 2/09/2006 08:54:40 play online chess	Subject: Analyzis required. Message: This is a game which just ended, between me and sir_durs8. I'll make notes beneath the game with some general thoughts. Comments will be much appreciated. board #4341625 1. e4 c5 2. Nf3 Nc6 3. Nc3 Nf6 4. Bb5 Nd4 5. e5 Nxb5 6. Nxb5 Nd5 7. Ng5 Nb4 8. Qf3 f6 9. exf6 exf6 10. Qh5+ g6 11. Qe2+ Be7 12. Nd6+ Kf8 13. Qc4 Nxc2+ 14. Kd1 Kg7 15. Nf5+ gxf5 16. Qf7+ Kh6 17. Ne6 Ne3+ 18. Ke2 dxe6 19. dxe3 e5 20. g4 Qe8 21. Qb3 fxg4 22. h3 Kg7 23. hxg4 Bxg4+ 24. f3 Qc6 25. e4 Be6 26. Bh6+ Kf7 I resign. 0-1 11. ... Be7? I feel this is a losing move, in a GMgame that chessbase has Qe7 was played, it ended in a win for white. 13. Qc4! I'm certain this is a won position for white. I didn't find the best continution obviously (still can't). 15. Nf5+ Maybe this was THE error. I overlooked the clever Nxc2+ with Ne3 as following. 17. Ne6? Seals the deal. Everything after this point is just me desperatly trying to find a repeatable draw somewhere, but with accurate play I know that it is futile. --------------- I'd like someone to use a program to see if there really was a mate or if my feelings deceived me and also, if not, make some specified comments about the further development of the game. Values at some of the moves from chessbase or whatever would also be nice, but not a "must". Thank you, Brilliance.
mattdw play-chess-online.com chess 2/09/2006 09:59:06 play online chess	Message: I've set Fritz 9 off analysing it, I'll post the result afterwards. Though I doubt I could give any inisight that you don't know already!
olean_don play-chess-online.com chess 2/09/2006 10:55:59 play online chess	Message: hanges the whole complex of things giving white the better chance of a win. My humble opinion.
olean_don play-chess-online.com chess 2/09/2006 10:58:03 play online chess	Message: sorry somehow did not all print. 13 ngf7 better than Qc4.
brilliance play-chess-online.com chess 2/09/2006 11:41:15 play online chess	... Message: Alberlie was kind enough to post the following continuation: 17. d3 Qg8 18. Ne6+ Ne3+ 19. Bxe3+ Qg5 20. Bxg5+ fxg5 21. h4 dxe6 22. hxg5+ Kxg5 23. Qg7+ Kf4 24. Qg3#
mattdw play-chess-online.com chess 2/09/2006 12:09:24 play online chess	Message: olean_don, I don't think [13. Ngf7] would work since taking the rook means hanging the other knight after the queen has moved out of the way. Playing [Nxh8] afterwards would trap the knight eventually leaving white a peice down, though the position still looks strong. Brilliance, regarding the moves you mentioned, Fritz says. 11...Be7 was a mistake, it gives white the advantage of 3.90 pawns up from 0.59 pawns. It doesn't say much else but I guess it is simply because the bishop is pinned, the threat of the knight fork and mate after Qc4 means the eventual loss of blacks Knight. 13. Qc4 was the best move given by Fritz, like I mentioned above double attack on the knight and a mate threat wins material (though I'm sure you know this!). 14...Kg7 at this point Fritz says you have a mate in 11 possible with 15.Nf5+ being the correct continuation. 17. Ne6? was the error, it puts you from a mate in 9 position to behind by 4.66 pawns according to fritz. The mate from move 17 should have followed: 17. d3 Ne3+ 18. Bxe3 Qg8 19. Ne6+ Qg5 20. Bxg5 fxg5 21. h4 dxe6 22. hxg5+ Kxg5 23. Qg7+ Kf4 24. Qg3# I hope that's of some help, I've uploaded the .pgn to here---> -> s10.yousendit.com
mattdw play-chess-online.com chess 2/09/2006 12:11:00 play online chess	Message: Looks like Aberlie beat me to it ;)
brilliance play-chess-online.com chess 2/10/2006 02:42:57 play online chess	Thanks Message: for all replies. I have the information needed and am very satisfied with all responses.

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