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bucklehead
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3/09/2006
19:54:27

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Subject: Amusing

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Stumbled across this: -> www.arcademate.com

The challenge is not "can you beat it?" but "how quickly can you win?" I tried to wait it out until the endgame to see how clueless it is, but I just didn't have that kind of self restraint.


mattdw
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3/09/2006
23:50:14

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Seven

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Haha, what a great game. :P
Nine (half) moves:
1. e4 b3
2. Bc4 e5
3. Qf3 d5
4. Bxd5 c6
5. Qxf6#
What can we learn from this? Absolutly nothing :) I think a reasonable challenge would be to complete a game without losing a piece and taking all of theirs. :P


ionadowman
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3/10/2006
01:27:51

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Beginners might find this...

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...challenging enough. Not all its moves are silly, and sometimes those that are look like the kind of moves that a beginner might make, e.g. spotting the attack on the rook but overlooking the deadlier mate. Board's a bit hard to read, though. I dropped a queen in one game, which was why it took about 35 moves (69ply, I think) to win.
1.d4 d5
2.Nf3 Nc6
3.e3 Bg4 So far, so plausible...
4.Bd3 b5? How often do you see this kind of beginner move - which loses more than the loose pawn...
5.Bxb5 Bxf3
6.Qxf3 e5 This one, tho', is mystifying. I wouldn't think even beginners would play this. After all they do try to play with some purpose...
7.Bxc6+ Ke7
8.Bxd5 Rc8 Overlooking the main threat...
9.Qxf7+ Kd6
10.Qe6#
This game seems to encourage you to look for the quick kill...
Cheers,
Ion


mattdw
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3/10/2006
02:28:08

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It does seem to encourage the quick kill unfortunately, which is something that beginners really do not want to get into the habit of. I remember my first week of games pretty much all involved 1. e4 2. Bc4 3. Qf3 with the hope of a quick mate. I soon realised this was not only less fun than playing a long game but that it was actually a pretty bad opening which more often than not resulted in me getting into more trouble than it was worth. I suppose at least that game could be a training aid for spotting blunders!

bucklehead
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3/10/2006
08:26:18

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Interesting...

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I'm so thoroughly "trained" that it didn't even occur to me to go for the ol' Qxf7#!

Here's a fun little one:

1. e4 d5 {Scandi!!} 2. Qh5 {I'm not falling for that so easily} dxe4 3. Bc4 {Keeping after the quick kill} g6 4. Qe5 Nf6 5. Nc3 b6 {is it me or does this program really love the fianchetto?} 6. Nxe4 Nc6 {An entirely unexpected opportunity} 7. Nxf6#


daverundle
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3/10/2006
09:10:06

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what a laugh

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took me a whole 5 moves

paranoidyoshi
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3/10/2006
17:05:40

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4 moves

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1. e3 c6
2. Qf3 e5
3. Bc4 b5
4. Qxf7++


paranoidyoshi
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3/10/2006
17:15:17

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just a footnote

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it is possible to lose. i lost in 31 (after giving up all of my pieces except one measly h-pawn)

ionadowman
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3/11/2006
13:08:12

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I wondered if this was a 'learning program'...

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...i.e. one that 'learned' from its mistakes. I tried a repeat of bucklehead's game, and this happened: 1.e4 d5 2.Qh5 dxe4 3.Bc5 b6 (well, it varied...) 4.Bxf7+ Kd7 5.Qd5#.
Inconclusive... Most of my games with it have been in the 60-70ply range (30-35 moves). It does occasionally play sensible, even good, moves, but at other times it seems almost to challenge you to spot the cheapo it's just walked into. It has walked into some very interesting and complicated checkmate positions!
Cheers,
ion


wolstoncroft1
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3/11/2006
18:46:10

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I didnt try for a quick kill, But the program gave a way pieces, i didnt even try to worrk for them it just offered them up
lol
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ccmcacollister
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3/11/2006
19:32:06

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Hmmm

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It was doing okay for awhile,if I'd just give it one take back for self-dematerializing moves. It would go ahead and make a stronger one. Like it was trying to play up to my expectations :)
But then finally it got to a position after Re1+ where it had 3 options for its unchecking king move. I had to give up on it after giving it 10 or 12 tries to answer with Kf8. Instead it insisted it must move to one of the other squares ... which both lose its Queen <8~((
[that there is the symbol for "Unhappy-with-a-dunce-cap-on". ]


lorddreamer
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3/15/2006
15:32:31

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It's not completely stupid...

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I played it and won in seven moves, but, as was said earlier, it was overlooking the real threat. I unfortunately quit the game, so I dont have the annotation, but I went in for the scholarmate, it attacked my Q, I moved, it defended its pawn (i was forking its pawn and the pawn for mate), I moved my bishop to attack, it attacked my Bishop, I won. Now, this is the sort of thing a kid who'd just learned about defending would do. It shows a bit of competence, but... still sucked lol.
P.S. This is only a game site, not an actual chess site, so what do y'all expect haha! Also, the games are pretty sweet :D


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