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alberlie play-chess-online.com chess
3/26/2006 01:55:17 play online chess | Subject: Women World Championship
Message: Congrats to Xu Yuhua, who came out on top of this 64 player knockout tourney!
While one can (and should, probably) be highly sceptical about the format's adaequacy to determine a world champion, there can be little doubt that the last two were a worthy (or at least: among the worthier - I would have liked a match between Chiburdandize and Humpy) choice fighting for the title.
Both of them needed only one tiebreak in the prior five rounds, Yuhua not losing a single game during the whole touney.
If new ratings were calculated today, Yuhua would be rated third (or fourth, if you count Susan Polgar) woman in the world with a rating of 2517. That's ok for a WCC, I guess...
more here: -> www.womenchess.com
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alberlie play-chess-online.com chess
3/30/2006 13:26:21 play online chess |
Message: Am I the only one who cares? (:o/
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jstack play-chess-online.com chess
3/31/2006 05:04:13 play online chess | Women world championship
Message: With all due respect to Yuha, it is hard to care too much about the women's world championship when you know the best women chess player is not participating. Of course the point Judit is making is there should not be a tournament called "womens world championship" To Judit and many others this implies women are inherently worse chess players than men, and this attitude is offensive to her. If there has to be a separate champion for men and women, women should at least be allowed to play the men as is currently the case in the united states. Of course in order to do that you would have to change the format.
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coyotefan play-chess-online.com chess
3/31/2006 08:17:34 play online chess | I agree with jstack
Message: No top women. Who cares?
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alberlie play-chess-online.com chess
3/31/2006 09:10:21 play online chess |
Message: There is this friend of mine, who listenes to the name Advocatus Diaboli (I have no idea where he got that name, but it sticks like glue...) asked me to point out the following:
Jstack, by your argument it's completely incomprehensible why anyone would be interested in the San Luis tournament last year as the highest rated player (heck, not even the highest rated playerS! Ivanchuk was missing, Aronian was missing, I think even Gelfand was rated higher than Adams/Polgar) wasn't participating.
Coyotefan, similarily, no top men either anymore. Take the usual band of chess engines and they beat the top gms in any kind of format in the long run.
Now, I don't necessarily follow the points of my friend here, but...
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ionadowman play-chess-online.com chess
3/31/2006 12:58:13 play online chess | Women...
Message: ... are a subset of the human race, just as, say, the people of the United States, or Germany, or Christchurch, or the Society of Chartered Accountants, or the ocularly dysfunctional are. We seem to have no problem raising an interest in discovering who the U.S. Champion is, say. Isn't there a 'junior world championship' with some kind of arbitrary age qualification? So why not a 'women's champion' or a 'men's champion'? Of course the 'supreme world champion' might be a woman or a man, so at some point the best of the subsets have to converge and fight it out...
I've read that 'devil's advocate' is an honourable role, but don't be surprised if people raise hell in response...
Cheers,
Ion
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dena play-chess-online.com chess
3/31/2006 20:05:25 play online chess |
Message: well it's a high probability that women are inherently worse chess players, one woman who can play with the big boys wouldn't disprove that.
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coyotefan play-chess-online.com chess
4/01/2006 10:56:34 play online chess | Many tourneys draw a little interest
Message: But would we be interested in a World Championship match without the top 10 players? Would we really recoginze the winner as the true World Champion?
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