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zhnkiu
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5/08/2006
11:49:52

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Subject: A new chess piece

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What would you choose for a new chess piece?
I'd go for an invisible teleporting assassin.


ccmcacollister
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5/08/2006
11:58:18

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ICBM

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IntraColorBallisticMater

zhnkiu
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5/08/2006
12:19:40

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yes, too easy to make

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a superpower piece. how about: a mystery piece, it has the attibute of any (minor) piece but once moved, it takes on that attibute for the rest of the game.

fmgaijin
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5/08/2006
12:22:27

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Faerie Chess

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The literature of chess includes numerous suggestions along these lines. My two favorites are the Gorgon (moves like a Q but can't capture anything; however, every piece it attacks is "frozen") and the Chimera (moves like a Q but when it "captures" the piece taken goes to the square the Chimera came from).

ccmcacollister
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5/08/2006
12:31:34

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It

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hovers above the opposing kings airspace,and casts a mating net ...

ccmcacollister
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5/08/2006
12:34:30

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There are a lot of

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Chess derivatives on www.schemingmind.com .
The place to be for farout variants. Some mysteriously move a piece while you are gone. Some explode the pieces surrounding a capture (atomic). etc. Interesting stuff !


ionadowman
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5/08/2006
13:12:32

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Galactic Emperor...

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...could move anywhere, capture anything, but could not touch enemy King (otherwise, the GE's mere presence on the board would constitute checkmate).

Maharajah, as in the chess equivalent game of Fox and Geese. The Maharajah moves like a rook, knight and bishop. He can't be captured, but must be checkmated. It takes the entire normal army to bring this elusive fellow to book.

Capablanca thought the addition of two more major pieces on a 10x10 board might enliven a game that had become a bit boring for him. I don't recall their names, 'Chancellor' might have been one of them. One moved like a rook and knight, the other like a bishop and knight. One imagines forcing a mate with K + <B/N> would be quite hard, given the difficult of winning with K + B + N vs K. But after trying it out, I find it quite easy. The position to aim for is something like WKf4, W<B/N>g5, BKh4. In the corner, BKa1, W<B/N>c3, WK anywhere you like. The <B/N> piece can deliver (not force) mate unaided! Perhaps it ought to be called 'Lord High Executioner', or maybe 'Cardinal'!? I wonder why Capa's idea never caught on?
Cheers,
Ion


ionadowman
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5/09/2006
02:17:43

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Archbishop...

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...seems to be a good appellation for the Bishop/Knight piece. Another mating set-up using this piece is WKb6, WAc7, BKa8. I would like to call the Rook/Knight piece the 'Baron', but maybe 'Earl', or 'Duke' is better, having a different initial letter from 'bishop'.
In Fairy Chess there is a piece called a Knight (Night?) Rider, which moves like an ordinary Knight, but if it makes a capture, may continue to move by capturing until it runs out of captures.
Cheers,
Ion


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5/09/2006
06:05:42

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Another Variant Site !

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I received an update on sites for Chess Variants from mlazar, who says I should try Brainking for deviant games. And I just may do that. At first glance it looks very interesting!
(Hope it offers bughouse, as I am having a devil of a time getting set up to play that online. And in fact have yet to even gotten one game of it started... )
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ccmcacollister
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5/09/2006
06:13:57

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Link didnt take ?

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-> www.brainking.com

Now I see it is because I did not put in the actual h t t p : / /
which my own computer does automatically. Didnt know it was needed. Do now.
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ionadowman
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5/09/2006
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But it doesn't have 'Hex', though...

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...Piet Hein's wonderfully simple game.
:-(


ionadowman
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5/09/2006
13:02:59

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Very informative site...

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Thanks, Craig. I was curious about the names of the pieces I described earlier. I now realise too that Capablanca's board was 10x8, not 10x10. Some of the games there I recognise under different names...
cheers,
Ion


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5/09/2006
15:49:29

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Capablanca chess

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He actually started with a 10x10 board and later changed it to a 10x8 board.

ionadowman
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6/02/2006
00:29:32

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The relative values of the pieces...

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...gives the King a 'fighting value' slightly less than that of a minor piece (i.e. 2.5 pawns in Reinfeld's scheme). I was thinking about such a piece were it not subject to mate - call it a Crown Prince [CP], say. Could a K + CP alone checkmate a bare K? I'm inclined to think they could, which would enhance the value of the CP in the endgame, relative to some of the other pieces.
Suppose we replace the queen with this Crown prince, leaving all the other rules as they are. One imagines a slower kind of game, a bit like mediaeval chess, but with more useful pieces (I dislike the chaturanga Elephant and Vizier - The former can visit just 8 squares on the board, and the vizier seems pitifully weak...).
If it hasn't been tried, maybe I've invented a new chess variant!! What, then, to call the beast...
Cheers,
Ion


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