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crafty
play-chess-online.com chess
5/13/2006
11:09:54
play online chess |  Subject: Minimum no. of otb games to improve?
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Does anyone agree on what would be the minimum no. of games to play a year (otb) in order to improve? Currently I play around 10 games a year which is not commensurate with improving let alone maintaining form. Obviously the optimal number would very large :) but just wondered if there active club players out there who have seen there otb rating improve through playing more games.
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fmgaijin
play-chess-online.com chess
5/13/2006
13:12:08
play online chess | When Teaching Chess . . .
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. . . I found that players who played 50+ OTB games a year (a tournament a month on average) improved much more rapidly than those who played only a few tournaments a year.
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fmgaijin
play-chess-online.com chess
5/13/2006
13:13:01
play online chess | P.S. During my OWN periods of improvment . . .
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. . . I averaged 100 or more games a year.
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coyotefan
play-chess-online.com chess
5/13/2006
21:34:47
play online chess | No number is vaild
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Some can improve more by studying many games, more than spending weekends at an OTB tourney to play only a few games. Others, especially in areas that have weekly OTB tourneys may find that the most helpful. Some may find spending their time and money studying with a OTB Master the best option. Still others are totally belpless, and coud not improve playing 1,000,000 OTB games.
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fmgaijin
play-chess-online.com chess
5/14/2006
00:39:21
play online chess | Obviously, my students . . .
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. . . were combining study with active OTB play. My point is that the players who JUST studied and did not play regularly did not improve as much as those who studied AND played regularly.
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stevetodd
play-chess-online.com chess
5/14/2006
01:29:19
play online chess | I have recently been considering
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the ratio of playing/analysis that I do is all wrong (for improvement). I play far too much, from now on I have decided that I will no longer use databases (of course I will loss more) except for post game analysis, hopefully by spotting my errors I will remember them better, at the moment I am guilty of slavishly following databases in lots of games, this results in 3 things:
1. I don't really appreciate why the move was a good one (yes ridicleous I know, hence my change).
2. I don't really enjoy the game until it gets out of the book and have to make my own decisions.
3. Because of 1 above it isn't helping my otb game (except for learning purely by repetition)
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ccmcacollister
play-chess-online.com chess
5/14/2006
12:58:09
play online chess | Yeah ...
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To play much is good. Then dissect the games afterward and prepare an improvement in the play. At least one tournament a month. What is 12 x 4.5 ? That is my answer :)
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ccmcacollister
play-chess-online.com chess
5/14/2006
12:59:30
play online chess | PS// and ...
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... it's over 50! :))
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mean_guy183
play-chess-online.com chess
5/14/2006
17:21:15
play online chess | 50!?
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50+!? o.0
I've never played OTB, so I was wondering whether or not playing OTB is that much more helpful playing online.
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fmgaijin
play-chess-online.com chess
5/14/2006
18:04:04
play online chess | Only if you're trying to improve your OTB play!
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Yo!
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ctrl-reset
play-chess-online.com chess
5/14/2006
22:09:42
play online chess | OTB vs Online
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I guess the major difference between playing OTB and Online is the immense time pressure that you get when playing OTB. And with people staring at you all the time :)
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mattdw
play-chess-online.com chess
5/15/2006
00:10:14
play online chess | OTB improvement through CC..
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I've played about 5 OTB games in my whole life, a couple when I first started in August against some friends (which is what got me interested in chess) and I faired quite evenly then I played again about 4 months later after playing regularly here on GK and studying and I had actually improved a great deal OTB despite not having played any games of that type, my main difficulty was visualisation as I was so used to a computer screen.
I think the differences between CC & OTB are exaggerated, or at least at my level - I guess as we get better at both then the specific characteristics of each will begin to take more primacy, but not really for me yet. Though I do tend to play my CC games in more of an OTB way (no database, no analysis board, making the moves reasonably quickly etc..). I wouldn't advise only playing CC to prepare only for a tournament of course, but I think a lot can be said for CC played in similar circumstances to OTB. I made a thread related to this a while back and a few people didn't like the idea that I was trying to approximate OTB through CC - claiming they are like apples and oranges, I think they are much more closely related than that! More like a two different types of apples or something. ;)
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