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crudess play-chess-online.com chess
5/26/2006 12:07:04 play online chess | Subject: Bishop Sac-Attack?
Message: Here's an example of the attack board #4125881
It's a bishop mating sacrafice followed by the advance of the H pawn against the kingside as either white or black, but I don't know the name of it if it has one. I've played this attack against even 1600's in blitz and won. It usually arises in the Italian game for me. Does anyone know if it has a name?
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ccmcacollister play-chess-online.com chess
5/26/2006 14:38:13 play online chess | Good Job
Message: I dont know of an official name, but it is what is often referred to as a Stock Attack. Vs h6 in your case. Quite often vs h7 instead. These are attacks that are well known and usually contain a number of like or similar motifs/tactics to produce the mate or win. For instance your sac upon h6, Ng5 and h4 are often seen. Another common feature of these two stock attackes is often a Rook lift of Re3 or f4 followed by Rf3 ... and then Rh3 or perhaps Rg3 sometimes ... in cases where WT is 0-0 instead of having the Rh1. There are many such Stock Attacks and all players would be better off for knowing them. Especially useful in blitz, as you suggest. But in OTB too. Or even Corr Chess when your opp does not know them. And even when they do know, often the threat of creating such a sac position can be used to force some advantage by the necessity that they must strive to avoid allowing it.
There is a maxim that pawns in front of ones Castled King should NOt be moved, except as a last resort, because, as your game demonstrates well, such moves tend to be weakening and can almost always be exploited given sufficient Time to do so. Which makes the game become a race then, where the other side must get to you before you get to them, after such a weakness is created.
}8-)
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ccmcacollister play-chess-online.com chess
5/26/2006 14:43:17 play online chess | PS ...
Message: Here is one game I had that features another stock B-sac. And would have included a Rook lift Rb3, had the game continued. Tho BL rightly resigned in an indefensible position.
board #1556986
I've had dozens of such sacs and attacks over 30+ years of play, and seen many dozens in games of others. It really is one of the most important things to know such attacks, imo. It will bring a players dozens of points over the years.
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crudess play-chess-online.com chess
5/26/2006 18:28:52 play online chess | thanks.
Message: I enjoyed that example, esp. 7.Bd3 which seems to have been significant in the setup. Any idea why they are referred to as "Stock" attacks or where it originated?
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ccmcacollister play-chess-online.com chess
5/26/2006 19:54:04 play online chess | crudess ...
Message: I'm not sure, but perhaps the "Stock" reference comes from the phrase "stock in trade". Which is nothing to do with trading stocks and bonds! :)
Rather referring to a common skill of a Trade or Craft. Something that every tradesman skilled in that craft would be expected to know, and taught to every apprentice. But this is just a guess.
In any case, using the word Stock in reference to a Stock Attack, its meaning in that use would be relatively synonymous to the word "Standard" , I believe. So, the same as saying a Standard Attack.
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schnarre play-chess-online.com chess
5/27/2006 14:11:11 play online chess | Makes Sense!
Message: A sac of this nature should be familiar to any aspiring chess player: to use & be aware of.
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jstack play-chess-online.com chess
5/27/2006 20:39:28 play online chess | grecos gift
Message: If I remembering right, this sacrifice is called "Grecos gift."
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alberlie play-chess-online.com chess
5/28/2006 02:11:09 play online chess | jstack,
Message: No, you're talking about the "greek gift sacrifice". Which, by the way is a funny title for it since you don't gift a horse (� la Troja) but a Bishop. Should that be pagan polemics?? ;o))
Anyway, you're talking about an attack initiated from the following position (or similar):Nf3, Qd1, Bd3, Bc1. And, very important, black neither controls g5 nor h7 (let's say he played ... Ne7)
Then follows Bxh7, Kxh7 Ng5+ and the queen comes in on the next move.
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wschmidt play-chess-online.com chess
5/30/2006 13:30:31 play online chess | I'm guessing that the phrase
Message: "stock attack" comes from the idea that such attacks are part of the regular stock of ideas that a player has available. Just like the grocery store keeps Corn Flakes in stock or and certain oil filters are always part of an auto parts store stock. So with the bishop sac for chess players.
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stendhar play-chess-online.com chess
6/01/2006 00:55:10 play online chess | Greek gift
Message: Or trojan horse, when Black, or White plays h6 or h3, respectively to attack a piece on g5 or g4 and in response White or Black defendes it with the h pawn, as after the capture the h1 or h8 Rook become very active and produces a mating attack. The h7 sacrifice is most common in the French Defense, but it only works on beginners, as more experienced players have had their share of pitfalls. The most bold of this type of sacrifice took place in a game played by Speilman in this variation: 1.e4 e6 2.d4 d5 3.Nd2 Nf6 4.e5 Nfd7 5.Bd3 c5 6.c3 Nc6 7.Ne2 Qb6 8.Nf3 cd4 9.cd4 Bb4 10.Kf1 0-0 11.Bh7! This particular sacrifice doesn't end in a forced mate, but it is winning nonetheless as the initiative generated compensates the material deficit.
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