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| legion 3/22/2003 16:26:35 [ report this post ] |
 Subject: Post of silence thread is a crock!Message: I can't see the point of a thread like this. What does it prove? I don't need to post an empty thread in a third rate internet forum prove my humanity. If you're against the war, get out there and protest! If you're for the war - any war - then you KNOW lives will be lost. I dunno, maybe I'm missing something... |
| gatsby 3/22/2003 16:45:21 [ report this post ] | I think you are Message: most correct in your deductions. |
| danrieke 3/22/2003 17:01:56 [ report this post ] | Legion Message: I agree with you. To yours I might add, if one does not vote, by what moral authority does one have the right to protest? If one has not served in the military, but what right does one judge the military? If one has not served in public office, by what standard can one judge a politician? Anyone can formulate an opinion. That's easy. The hard part is coming up with WORKABLE answers. That takes hard work, information and an IQ. |
| hamlet 3/22/2003 19:50:02 [ report this post ] | I don't vote Message: but it's because I am not of legal age yet. I protest the war because my opinion was not valid according to the government. It is sending some of my friends off to Iraq to die an a war we dissagree with. |
| legion 3/22/2003 20:20:39 [ report this post ] | Hamlet. Message: Thank you for sharing that with us hamlet. Seems you got sucked in by the 2nd paragraph of dandreke's post. There's a lot of that goes on round here. The spirit of the opening post (OP) rarely survives beyond the the first few posts here. |
| drgandalf 3/22/2003 20:20:47 [ report this post ] | legion Message: You open this thread with: "Post of silence thread is a crock!" Why do you criticise those whose moral fiber compels them to mourn the casualties of war? Why do you feel superior to the fallen in a conflict? Why do you think you are the only one with truth? |
| hamlet 3/22/2003 20:31:17 [ report this post ] | ok Message: I agree with you legion. on the opening post. If people disapprove of the war or its casualties they should protest the action. but... perhaps these people are just showing their sadness about the lives lost and who knows with the post of silence might be offering them a prayer. They have the right to do it. BTW-didn't I see your name on the post of silence for the columbia, or was I hullicinating? |
| zylstraj 3/23/2003 03:37:29 [ report this post ] | well said Message: legion |
| lordoftherings 3/23/2003 05:37:56 [ report this post ] | Message: first of all because my english i dont know what measns" crock" but...i am sure its not somethin positive. when i see all of time at tv the war! all people cry and people die(killed!) ! and like watching a movie! i am not very happy! i started post of silence.... "If you're against the war, get out there and protest! " here at gameknot if i dont remember false...there were allways posts of silence.. here in turkey when there are somethings terriblewe restpect with SILENCE! in ceremonies before the matches! SILENCE is also a protest ... thats just my idea surely! i am 17 years old...i am from Turkey where is just behind of Iraq ...thats all of i can do for now. i just hate this...i am against yes i protest! with silence! |
| lordoftherings 3/23/2003 05:38:25 [ report this post ] | Message: |
| drgandalf 3/23/2003 07:14:44 [ report this post ] | Message Message: of silence |
| brobishkin 3/23/2003 11:10:38 [ report this post ] | Polls show... Message: A majority of Americans favor the war with Iraq... Silence is golden but the best silence will be the peace obtained afterwhich Saddam is replaced by a representative that actually cares about the Iraqi people... The giving of medical aid and food is better than giving the people a golden palace to look at in awe... The silence I offer is for the poeple whose lives are taken to obtain a better world... Americans, British, Iraqi, etc... Bro... |
| mormel12 3/23/2003 13:17:21 [ report this post ] | for danrieke Message: i've served my time in the army, i do vote and people are judged on their actions. it's as simple as that anything else? greetings |
| durango1966z 3/23/2003 14:28:16 [ report this post ] | Message: brobrishkin, it must be also pointed out that a majority of Americans are also very poorly informed in matters of world politics. For example, the large percentage of Americans who believe that some of the 9/11 hijackers were Iraqi (0 Iraqi hijackers). I wonder how many of the 75% of Americans who supposedly support the war could identify Iraq on a globe. I wonder how many are aware of the fasified evidence that the US and British presented when trying to make their case in the court of world public opinion. |
| durango1966z 3/23/2003 14:30:23 [ report this post ] | Message: Just to clarify. I am horrified by the actions of Saddam. I just do not agree with the method that the US and Britain used to justify this war. |
| daniela 3/23/2003 15:13:17 [ report this post ] | Players from Irak Message: I just wonder whether there were any players from Irak on gameknot and if anyone wondered about postponing their games (perhaps for ever). Or should we just resign? |
| game 3/23/2003 21:07:45 [ report this post ] | durango Message: im not sure about others but i know there were not any iraqi hijackers, i know where iraq is, im sure the government lies to us because they seem to a lot. i do not know if i can say i agree with the way the war was started, but i too fear saddam. this is a man that has reportedly killed many of his own people. im not sure if he has the means of mass destruction because if he did he would have used it by now, but i still think he needs to be taken out of power, but so does the nut from north korea who is making nuclear weapons and for some reason we are not going after them. i wish the world was a very peaceful place and we didnt need to have wars, but at times i can think of no other way to fix these problems. it goes back to the age old question of does the end justify the means. if this war saves millions of lives and lets people live without being in fear of this mad man then maybe it does. like i said i wish it was not this way, but saddam has not allowed weapons inspectors in his country for many years and whether or not it was warranted he could not have expected any different of a response from the US. |
| pawntificator 3/23/2003 23:10:08 [ report this post ] | wow Message: I'm amazed. People are screwed up. What is wrong with the world? Arguing against something someone says, I can understand that. It happens all the time. But when there are people that can't even let silence go by without arguing against it, when mere silence is too much to handle....that is just disturbing. You know, that's the problem with the world today. People can't just sit alone in silence and stillness. Always something must be blaring in their ears or on their eyes. Damned people. Get a grip. |
| gatsby 3/23/2003 23:25:17 [ report this post ] | And how about those Message: ATM surcharges? |
| pawntificator 3/23/2003 23:29:32 [ report this post ] | Oh dont even get me started! Message: And what about long distance phone calls? What, I can go on the internet ALL MONTH to the whole world for 10 bucks, but a 10 minute phone call to italy costs me an arm and a leg?~!~? Give me a break. |
| gatsby 3/23/2003 23:34:15 [ report this post ] | Preach on Message: brother Pawntificator. |
| zylstraj 3/24/2003 03:56:57 [ report this post ] | Ther are.. Message: 4 players on GK from Iraq - at least they claim to be. They are; 7afaa fockin_laheed ravens_wrath urucaio |
| pawntificator 3/24/2003 04:53:50 [ report this post ] | what are you doing zyl? Message: Now they are probably going to get a bunch of private message insulting them or asking them dumb questions! Now they are going to have a headache! heh heh, I know I already sent them all a private message. Not really. Leave those kind folks alone, or I'm moving to Iraq myself! There! I just moved to Iraq. Check my profile. |
| fooey 3/24/2003 05:40:57 [ report this post ] | Agree with Legion Message: It's not direct action, that's for sure, but if people wish to post silence, I don't have a problem with it. As for dan's thread hijacking comments, I do not vote, and this is a vote against the political system. I still pay up to 40% of my earnings to the government, which is spent on, amongst health care and luxury homes for MPs, DEFENCE. I'm funding the bloody war, why doesn't my opinion count as much as someone who's voted ? Answer : It does. |
| pawntificator 3/24/2003 10:42:27 [ report this post ] | Yeah Message: your opinion really makes a difference. What did the president say when you told him how you felt? What? You mean he didn't ask you? Well, that must be because you didn't vote. He asked me and I told him to sneak in there and grab Saddam in a choke hold, but he wouldn't listen. I think he's chicken. Of course, then he told me to do it, and I said No Way! I'd never make it in there alive. But the President of the US! You could bluff his way in, George, I said. And then BAM! Full nelson. |
| lyly123 3/25/2003 05:10:58 [ report this post ] | ur a crock Message: believe it or not....some people do have morals....and some people do feel regret for war...and some people do feel sorry for those that are put into those situations!!!....if you dont agree with them fine....but dont criticise us! |
| fooey 3/25/2003 05:21:09 [ report this post ] | Why would I contact Message: the US president ? I might as well try and reason with saddam. I'm not eligable to vote in US elections, i'm too intelligent (and british). And what good would it do to talk to tony blair about the megalomaniac threatening world peace ? he's his right-hand man ! |
| drgandalf 3/25/2003 06:18:12 [ report this post ] | Fooey Message: I am very proud of you for holding your own in discussion with the warmongers. Yes, a post of silence is indeed powerful. More powerful than ranting and raving. Peaceful protesting is something a minor can participate in. It is very effective. The government spends many hours watching the protesters and counting them. The watchers report back to senior government officials, who weigh public setiment. I do not recommend civil disobedience, until you are older. The consequences last a lifetime. Young persons are too eager for a cause, and usually fail in wisdom. As this war progresses, you can participate in other forms of protest. However, consider the consequences very carefully. I honor you for your courage and your patriotism. You DO INDEED make a difference. |
| drgandalf 3/25/2003 06:18:36 [ report this post ] | . Message: . |
| fooey 3/25/2003 06:26:49 [ report this post ] | Dr G. Message: I thank you for your kind words, and bow to your sage council. A minor ? We shut the pits over here years ago ;P I've been very close to prominent UK protesters in the past, and have supported several issues, but I would not resort to civil disobedience, not even if I was 60 ! It doesn't really help your cause, in fact, it discredits the views of those with similar opinions. |
| loki 3/25/2003 09:47:17 [ report this post ] | post of silence Message: The post of silence rocked. I mean being from the us and all there is many people protesting the war with force. This peacful. Lordoftherings nice post. |
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